The 240s ...

Qc_Drifter · 02-15-2005, 02:04 PM

Ok ! First, I know I ask alot of questions, but it's mainly because I can't focus on one model and then buy one !

But I'm starting to like more and more the Volvo 240 !

What I would like to know, is if it's a good car, for a daily driver, but after some times, I'll start to mod it for performance.

Which years are thougher, which engines are better ?! ( Also, I'd prefer to have a manual trans.)

I've spotter an old 83 ( I think ) 244 Turbo. With the b21FT. The engine has 125 000km and the body about 415 000 km. The car is from British Colombia and he says that it's nearly rust free, floors are perfect, ect.

He is asking 3900 $ ( CDN ) for it. Here is a photo :

Or here is the link for the ad ( it's in french... ) http://www.lespac.com/search/detail....ffre=t&etatb=t

So what do you think of this car ?

Would I be better with another ? Please Help Me !!!

Thank's in advance !
Julien. ( And sorry again with all of my questions ! )

Qc_Drifter · 02-15-2005, 02:39 PM

Also, after reading a little bit about the modifications, I found that they almost all require to have 91 + octane fuel.... but here in Québec, the higher we have is live 91 ..

Could I acheive something good even with this ? Or is it REALLY not recommended ?

Teeo · 02-15-2005, 03:40 PM

salut julien, j'imagine que tu parles francais, pour ce qui en est de la 240 a 3900 c'est vraiment trop cher, peu importe l'état qu'elle est.... tu peux avoir facilement une 850 a ce prix la..... pour celle qui sont ici au quebec, si ma memoire est bonne, les manuelles 5 vitesse c'est a partir de 86-87, avant c'est une 4 vitesse avec overdrive ou 4 vitesses tout cour. Dis moi ou t'habites, j'en ai spotter une cette semaine a St-bruno sur la rive sud de montreal, mais une 83 , hey!! 22 ans le char, c'est sur c.est une VOlvo! mais bien trop cher.... le b230f ou ft (turbo)sont des moteurs tres solides..... ca depends ce que tu recherches, a partir de 86-87 les lumieres avant on changer sinon c'est la meme affaire (body) de 81-93 a quelques exeptions pres,,, donnes moi des nouvelles et je t'indiquerais ou elle se trouve, j'ai pas reussit a savoir combien il l'a vendait mais elle a les meme mags(virgos) et était grise je crois.... anyways bonne chance

salut

Teeo · 02-15-2005, 03:54 PM

pour le gaz, du sans plomb fait l'affaire..... petro a du 94 octane.... mais sincerement c'est pas necessaire, du 87, ordinaire fait pareil, au prix du gaz..... c'est vraiment le modeles a carburateurs qui necessisent du plus haut octane

Qc_Drifter · 02-15-2005, 04:57 PM

Salut !!

Moi je suis plus de la Rive-Sud de Québec !

Je reviens justement d'un garage de Volvo cet après midi, et le gars m'a di qu'il ne garde pas de Volvo, il fait seulement de la réparation ... et il disait que la plupart des 240 sont bien maganées du plancher ...et qu'il en reste plus beaucoup a Québec.

Donc la , je crois bien que je vais regarder plus pour un 740 ou 940 ... mais des 940 manuels je pense pas que ca aie été déja produit ici ?

Je sais pas si tu connais ce garage, c'est a Matanne, ca s'apelle Garage Villeneuve ou quelque chose du genre, il travaille sur Volvo et Mazda. Il fait affaire avec le garage que j'Ai été voir cet après midi ! Peut-être qu'ils ont des voitures usagées ! Il y a aussi Autotech, la ou mon Père est allé chercher sa 850, mais ils gardent pas vraiment de 240/740/940 ...

Pour ce qui est de l'Essence, je parlait que avec certaines modifications, ils disaient que ca prend du 91-94 et plus ! Mais a Québec ( la ville ) on a juste du 91 comme plus haut ...

En tout cas, redonne moi en des nouvelles !! Si tu as msn , mon adresse c'Est : julien_hebert@hotmail.com, ca va aller mieux pour discuter !

Teeo · 02-15-2005, 10:00 PM

merci pour ton email je t'ai rajouter a ma liste..... écartes-toi de chez autotech! ton pere a du payer sa 850 pas mal trop cher..... c'est un crosseur ce garage la, il fait venir ses chars vga d'ontario et les revends a des prix de fou..... Mon pere est Master Technician Volvo depuis pas loin de 30 ans et laisse moi te dire que c'est pas la place ou acheter!

pour une 940 manuelle, il me semble qu'il y en a. faudrait tu check sur les Pac ou les Pacs et check dans chaque région on ne sait jamais...

740 check bien la rouille dans les ailes.. tres fréquent mais yen a encore des pas pire sur nos merveilleuses routes du quebec.... c'est quoi ton budget pour ton auto?

Qc_Drifter · 02-15-2005, 11:45 PM

Salut !

Pour la 850, c'était une AWD, le gars lui avait di juste a la fin qu'elle n'est plus AWD, le transfer case brisé .. il a échangé son 960 1992 avec 320 000 km , et la 850 lui a coutée 10 000 $!

Je trouve que c'est quand même pas pire ! Elle avait environ 220 000 km au compteur !

La radio a lachée pas longtemps et il nous l'a changée gratuitement ! c'est quand même bien je trouve !! Mais si tu le dit qu'il est crosseur, ca doit être vrai !!

On continuera a se jaser ca par msn !

DurableSwedish · 02-16-2005, 02:31 AM

$4,000CDN is sure alot for an old volvo. I think you should look harder than that for one. If you are ready to blow that much on an old car, look for a cheap 240 with a messed up engine and get the engine rebuilt. The asperator said he got his engine completely rebuilt for about $2000. If you want a reliable daily driver, try and find an 86+ model, they aren't turbo, and alot of them are manual. A +t swap is pretty easy, or you could drop in an engine from a 940t cheaply too.

Qc_Drifter · 02-16-2005, 05:02 PM

Yeah I know that it's alot ...

But I went to a Volvo garage , and the guy said that the 240s in Québec are nearly all rusted ... so the 740 and the 940 are probably better...

I've found some Volvo 740 16v, but did they ever came with the manual tranny ? And also, the 940s , did they came in manual too ?

EDIT : Also, I was searching for a car that I saw some times ago, it's someone with a white Volvo 740, he is posting here or on volvospeed.com or vptuning.com , I can't remember where. He was really low to the ground, and I think it's someone from Ontario or Toronto ! If you can show me photos of his car, I'd like it alot !! Thank'S !

stylngle2003 · 02-16-2005, 06:05 PM

that's sams car most likely, aka Chigga 744 SE

Neil Peart · 02-16-2005, 06:06 PM

b21Ft are grreat motors!! if not that..b23FT

Qc_Drifter · 02-16-2005, 10:18 PM

Yeah , thank's !

That is the 740 I was talking about !!

Neil Peart · 02-16-2005, 11:44 PM

yes..chigga's car..the volvo panda pimp

samyboy · 02-17-2005, 07:41 AM

240 is truely a wonderful car id go for one over allmost anything

benboy · 02-17-2005, 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DurableSwedish

$4,000CDN is sure alot for an old volvo.

You'd be surprised how much rust-free 240 turbos go for in Canada. So all you Arizona-types could make a frickin' fortune in the Volvo transport business...

JonnyScorch · 02-17-2005, 11:49 AM

Yeah 4000 is alot, BUT 240's are awesome, and if its in top notch shape with a parfect body then it could be well worth it..especially if you look into the cost of bodywork.. 700/900's are ok, but the 900's didn't come with a manual unless they were converted, which can be done. There are a bunch of manual trans 240's and 740's though. I find the 700/900's are just less inspiring to drive, a major part of that could be the lack of manual trans. but at least they are nice and comfy on the highway..

Qc_Drifter · 02-17-2005, 06:05 PM

Yeah thank's !

That's something I want , to have fun while driving ! In my Altima it's alot boring ....

The 240 turbo I was talking about, it is said that the floor is perfect, and that the body has 300 000 or 400 000 km ! It seems alot to me ... But the engine has about 120 000 km !

Would it be a good deal to find a good one, non ruster in the USA and import it here in Québec ? Or find a good one here for a little bit ? Or restore one ?

jjam184 · 02-18-2005, 04:55 AM

The 240 is a great ride. If the one you are looking at is rust free I say go for it. The B21ft is a great motor that you will get tons of miles out of if you do the maintanence.

Mine is driven very hard every time I drive it, and it was driven very hard by all the previous owners with the exception of Mike, and I've got 240K on it and not a problem yet with the motor.

There are some 740 16 valve cars out there with manual tranny's but they are hard to find. Mike has one, and I have been looking for one for 3 years.

nothing but turbo · 02-18-2005, 08:41 AM

whilw you're at it, maybe you can help me convert my buddy: he lives on Edouard Monpetit in Montreal and he drives and Olds

I might stop by sometime in the summer so we can pull a mini-meet?

volvo9 · 02-18-2005, 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Qc_Drifter

Yeah thank's !

That's something I want , to have fun while driving ! In my Altima it's alot boring ....

The 240 turbo I was talking about, it is said that the floor is perfect, and that the body has 300 000 or 400 000 km ! It seems alot to me ... But the engine has about 120 000 km !

Would it be a good deal to find a good one, non ruster in the USA and import it here in Québec ? Or find a good one here for a little bit ? Or restore one ?

If there's no pain in the ass laws in your country that make importing a car a nightmare then it would be a good way to save some money and take a trip at the same time.

Lots of rust free 240 Turbos sell for around $1500 USD or less.

Qc_Drifter · 02-18-2005, 05:48 PM

Thank's all !!

The major problem for importing a car is when the car doesn't have more than 15 years and is not allowed to be driven on our roads !

But the 240 are majorely 15yrs or more ( or near that ) and they are legal to use, so I don't think it could be a problem ... !

Oh and another question I was askign myself , is it really pricey to do the maintenance on these cars ?! Are they good daily drivers ? And with modifications, do they lose they're daily drivability ?

Qc_Drifter · 02-20-2005, 04:58 PM

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Qc_Drifter · 02-20-2005, 10:59 PM

Nobody can answer to my question ?

And btw I'm probably going to see the 240 turbo I saw for sale on the net!

I'll give you news If I go to see it !

Robustus · 02-21-2005, 03:24 AM

They make excellent daily drivers when well-maintained, and are very cheap to maintain. Check out www.fcpgroton.com - you can get a sense of what stuff will cost ya...

240Psycho · 02-21-2005, 06:13 AM

with a source like this, any volvo is easy to maintain. just come to turbo bricks if anything breaks. we'll help.

i say buy it

02-15-2005, 02:04 PM	#1
Qc_Drifter Board Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Québec Canada	The 240s ... Ok ! First, I know I ask alot of questions, but it's mainly because I can't focus on one model and then buy one ! But I'm starting to like more and more the Volvo 240 ! What I would like to know, is if it's a good car, for a daily driver, but after some times, I'll start to mod it for performance. Which years are thougher, which engines are better ?! ( Also, I'd prefer to have a manual trans.) I've spotter an old 83 ( I think ) 244 Turbo. With the b21FT. The engine has 125 000km and the body about 415 000 km. The car is from British Colombia and he says that it's nearly rust free, floors are perfect, ect. He is asking 3900 $ ( CDN ) for it. Here is a photo : Or here is the link for the ad ( it's in french... ) http://www.lespac.com/search/detail....ffre=t&etatb=t So what do you think of this car ? Would I be better with another ? Please Help Me !!! Thank's in advance ! Julien. ( And sorry again with all of my questions ! ) __________________ http://QcDrifter.monchar.com -89 240 DL -97 850 AWD

02-15-2005, 03:40 PM	#3
Teeo Board Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Montreal, Canada	re salut julien, j'imagine que tu parles francais, pour ce qui en est de la 240 a 3900 c'est vraiment trop cher, peu importe l'état qu'elle est.... tu peux avoir facilement une 850 a ce prix la..... pour celle qui sont ici au quebec, si ma memoire est bonne, les manuelles 5 vitesse c'est a partir de 86-87, avant c'est une 4 vitesse avec overdrive ou 4 vitesses tout cour. Dis moi ou t'habites, j'en ai spotter une cette semaine a St-bruno sur la rive sud de montreal, mais une 83 , hey!! 22 ans le char, c'est sur c.est une VOlvo! mais bien trop cher.... le b230f ou ft (turbo)sont des moteurs tres solides..... ca depends ce que tu recherches, a partir de 86-87 les lumieres avant on changer sinon c'est la meme affaire (body) de 81-93 a quelques exeptions pres,,, donnes moi des nouvelles et je t'indiquerais ou elle se trouve, j'ai pas reussit a savoir combien il l'a vendait mais elle a les meme mags(virgos) et était grise je crois.... anyways bonne chance salut __________________ Volvo 855 95 (sold) Volvo 245 87 ( sold) Brand New! Volvo 244 92

02-16-2005, 02:31 AM	#8
DurableSwedish HM-Motorsports! Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Beaverton, OR	$4,000CDN is sure alot for an old volvo. I think you should look harder than that for one. If you are ready to blow that much on an old car, look for a cheap 240 with a messed up engine and get the engine rebuilt. The asperator said he got his engine completely rebuilt for about $2000. If you want a reliable daily driver, try and find an 86+ model, they aren't turbo, and alot of them are manual. A +t swap is pretty easy, or you could drop in an engine from a 940t cheaply too. __________________ \/ For cheap OEM VOLVO/VW/MAZDA parts and accessories! http://www.oemparts.us.com/partlocat...?siteid=215374

02-16-2005, 05:02 PM	#9
Qc_Drifter Board Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Québec Canada	Yeah I know that it's alot ... But I went to a Volvo garage , and the guy said that the 240s in Québec are nearly all rusted ... so the 740 and the 940 are probably better... I've found some Volvo 740 16v, but did they ever came with the manual tranny ? And also, the 940s , did they came in manual too ? EDIT : Also, I was searching for a car that I saw some times ago, it's someone with a white Volvo 740, he is posting here or on volvospeed.com or vptuning.com , I can't remember where. He was really low to the ground, and I think it's someone from Ontario or Toronto ! If you can show me photos of his car, I'd like it alot !! Thank'S ! Last edited by Qc_Drifter; 02-16-2005 at 05:04 PM..

02-16-2005, 06:06 PM	#11
Neil Peart 2nd gear burnouts... Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: B.F.E. Nebraska	b21Ft are grreat motors!! if not that..b23FT __________________ 81' 242 Ti- T3, 20PSI, B-Cam, M46, Built 164 Head, 740 Pumps, PS/AC Delete...yadda yadda. 92' 244- E-Fan, PS/AC Delete, Cut Springs, Single Muffler-No Cat

02-15-2005, 02:39 PM	#2
Qc_Drifter Board Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Québec Canada	Also, after reading a little bit about the modifications, I found that they almost all require to have 91 + octane fuel.... but here in Québec, the higher we have is live 91 .. Could I acheive something good even with this ? Or is it REALLY not recommended ?

02-15-2005, 03:54 PM	#4
Teeo Board Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Montreal, Canada	pour le gaz, du sans plomb fait l'affaire..... petro a du 94 octane.... mais sincerement c'est pas necessaire, du 87, ordinaire fait pareil, au prix du gaz..... c'est vraiment le modeles a carburateurs qui necessisent du plus haut octane

02-15-2005, 04:57 PM	#5
Qc_Drifter Board Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Québec Canada	Salut !! Moi je suis plus de la Rive-Sud de Québec ! Je reviens justement d'un garage de Volvo cet après midi, et le gars m'a di qu'il ne garde pas de Volvo, il fait seulement de la réparation ... et il disait que la plupart des 240 sont bien maganées du plancher ...et qu'il en reste plus beaucoup a Québec. Donc la , je crois bien que je vais regarder plus pour un 740 ou 940 ... mais des 940 manuels je pense pas que ca aie été déja produit ici ? Je sais pas si tu connais ce garage, c'est a Matanne, ca s'apelle Garage Villeneuve ou quelque chose du genre, il travaille sur Volvo et Mazda. Il fait affaire avec le garage que j'Ai été voir cet après midi ! Peut-être qu'ils ont des voitures usagées ! Il y a aussi Autotech, la ou mon Père est allé chercher sa 850, mais ils gardent pas vraiment de 240/740/940 ... Pour ce qui est de l'Essence, je parlait que avec certaines modifications, ils disaient que ca prend du 91-94 et plus ! Mais a Québec ( la ville ) on a juste du 91 comme plus haut ... En tout cas, redonne moi en des nouvelles !! Si tu as msn , mon adresse c'Est : julien_hebert@hotmail.com, ca va aller mieux pour discuter !

02-15-2005, 10:00 PM	#6
Teeo Board Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Montreal, Canada	merci pour ton email je t'ai rajouter a ma liste..... écartes-toi de chez autotech! ton pere a du payer sa 850 pas mal trop cher..... c'est un crosseur ce garage la, il fait venir ses chars vga d'ontario et les revends a des prix de fou..... Mon pere est Master Technician Volvo depuis pas loin de 30 ans et laisse moi te dire que c'est pas la place ou acheter! pour une 940 manuelle, il me semble qu'il y en a. faudrait tu check sur les Pac ou les Pacs et check dans chaque région on ne sait jamais... 740 check bien la rouille dans les ailes.. tres fréquent mais yen a encore des pas pire sur nos merveilleuses routes du quebec.... c'est quoi ton budget pour ton auto?

02-15-2005, 11:45 PM	#7
Qc_Drifter Board Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Québec Canada	Salut ! Pour la 850, c'était une AWD, le gars lui avait di juste a la fin qu'elle n'est plus AWD, le transfer case brisé .. il a échangé son 960 1992 avec 320 000 km , et la 850 lui a coutée 10 000 $! Je trouve que c'est quand même pas pire ! Elle avait environ 220 000 km au compteur ! La radio a lachée pas longtemps et il nous l'a changée gratuitement ! c'est quand même bien je trouve !! Mais si tu le dit qu'il est crosseur, ca doit être vrai !! On continuera a se jaser ca par msn !

02-16-2005, 10:18 PM	#12
Qc_Drifter Board Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Québec Canada	Yeah , thank's ! That is the 740 I was talking about !!

02-16-2005, 11:44 PM	#13
Neil Peart 2nd gear burnouts... Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: B.F.E. Nebraska	yes..chigga's car..the volvo panda pimp

02-17-2005, 11:49 AM	#16
JonnyScorch Board Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ont.	Yeah 4000 is alot, BUT 240's are awesome, and if its in top notch shape with a parfect body then it could be well worth it..especially if you look into the cost of bodywork.. 700/900's are ok, but the 900's didn't come with a manual unless they were converted, which can be done. There are a bunch of manual trans 240's and 740's though. I find the 700/900's are just less inspiring to drive, a major part of that could be the lack of manual trans. but at least they are nice and comfy on the highway..

02-17-2005, 06:05 PM	#17
Qc_Drifter Board Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Québec Canada	Yeah thank's ! That's something I want , to have fun while driving ! In my Altima it's alot boring .... The 240 turbo I was talking about, it is said that the floor is perfect, and that the body has 300 000 or 400 000 km ! It seems alot to me ... But the engine has about 120 000 km ! Would it be a good deal to find a good one, non ruster in the USA and import it here in Québec ? Or find a good one here for a little bit ? Or restore one ?

02-18-2005, 04:55 AM	#18
jjam184 Board Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: White, GA	The 240 is a great ride. If the one you are looking at is rust free I say go for it. The B21ft is a great motor that you will get tons of miles out of if you do the maintanence. Mine is driven very hard every time I drive it, and it was driven very hard by all the previous owners with the exception of Mike, and I've got 240K on it and not a problem yet with the motor. There are some 740 16 valve cars out there with manual tranny's but they are hard to find. Mike has one, and I have been looking for one for 3 years. __________________ Paid $1 for it!!!!!! 84' 242ti, 237K miles and still pretty strong B230 intake, water cooled T3 @ 14lbs. w/740 ducting Draco wheels. cold air induction, strut braces, flat black flat hood, Eurosport springs, Boge turbo gas Shocks & Struts, removed power steering and A/C. 89 780 Bertone 89K miles and all stock http://www.geocities.com/kouryauto/newparts.html

02-18-2005, 08:41 AM	#19
nothing but turbo lurker with a purpose Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: rustbelt, usa	whilw you're at it, maybe you can help me convert my buddy: he lives on Edouard Monpetit in Montreal and he drives and Olds I might stop by sometime in the summer so we can pull a mini-meet? __________________ Who needs a stinkin' sig?

02-18-2005, 05:48 PM	#21
Qc_Drifter Board Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Québec Canada	Thank's all !! The major problem for importing a car is when the car doesn't have more than 15 years and is not allowed to be driven on our roads ! But the 240 are majorely 15yrs or more ( or near that ) and they are legal to use, so I don't think it could be a problem ... ! Oh and another question I was askign myself , is it really pricey to do the maintenance on these cars ?! Are they good daily drivers ? And with modifications, do they lose they're daily drivability ?

02-20-2005, 04:58 PM	#22
Qc_Drifter Board Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Québec Canada	...

02-20-2005, 10:59 PM	#23
Qc_Drifter Board Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Québec Canada	Nobody can answer to my question ? And btw I'm probably going to see the 240 turbo I saw for sale on the net! I'll give you news If I go to see it !

02-21-2005, 03:24 AM	#24
Robustus Custom User Title Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: NJ (little bit NC and CT too)	They make excellent daily drivers when well-maintained, and are very cheap to maintain. Check out www.fcpgroton.com - you can get a sense of what stuff will cost ya... __________________ 1991 245, LH3.1, M47, 270,000mi. 1985 245, LH2.old, 104k.

02-21-2005, 06:13 AM	#25
240Psycho 2.0 Join Date: May 2003 Location: Port Richey, Florida	with a source like this, any volvo is easy to maintain. just come to turbo bricks if anything breaks. we'll help. i say buy it __________________ *..::VFBG::..* Kyle with a 91 244 F+T, 91 944TI 5 speed, and a 1990 244 (PARTING OUT) Check out my wifes website for jewelry at www.erdastudios.com

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